I say when you got a ring camera ring the bell when a doorbell cameras or a camera in your car or even cameras on trucks like FedEx the police should not be allowed to get those videos unless there's a crime the video may have caught and then they have to get a warrant for the judge to get it that's the way it should be they should not allowed to be used any cameras anywhere
@Allnimalz Says:
If your cameras caught a crime and none of the footage they want to see is going to incriminate you in any way. Why wouldn't you say "sure, here you go" and give them exactly what they asked for?
If they needed the footage to solve something where you were the victim wouldn't you want the homeowner to willingly help and speed up the process of identifying them?
They might not even have a chance to make it a few miles up the road if people would just cooperate.
@Super_64 Says:
Funny thing is I believe if I remember correctly.. there was an option to opt in or out of this feature by the consumer in the device settings.. people seem to forget that and just start screaming get a warrant right away… lol
@crystalchillura9614 Says:
I wonder what they have access to when they get the video from people, a certain time frame, or a few-hour window around the time they're looking at.
@runNgun88 Says:
You want safety buy a gun. I want privacy.
@theewhiteman2818 Says:
ABL is the best news channel on YouTube
@thomasgoode6172 Says:
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
The Patriot act was well intended to prevent Muslim terrorist organizations from attacking America. Instead the government used it to spy on American citizens. Without search warrants mandated by the fourth amendment.
The government will take those well intended videos to catch criminals and turn you into a criminal. As they spy on you pulling into you’re own driveway with the Cadillac Escalade. Used it against you as the IRS calls you in for audit.
It’s well intended to give the government agents qualified immunity. There is plenty of evidence they abuse those powers on innocent people. Ask the January 6 Defendants being held in solitary confinement.
Those ring door cameras will be abused by government agents given a chance.
@BeltFedToys Says:
So the police want access to private home cameras. Are they willing to allow civilians access to their community surveillance cameras, precinct security or how about live stream all cop activity to make sure they act properly on duty? I'm sure they'd cry about privacy.
@MemeYouyou-dz4yk Says:
ABL
SO ALL THEY GOT TO DO IS BE MISTAKEN REPEATING A LIE AND YOUD HELP CONVICT INOCENT PEOPLE ABL?
THOUGHT YOU WERE SMARTER THAN AVERAGE. ABL😢
@MemeYouyou-dz4yk Says:
You never experienced 🤨misuse of arbitrary power
You're idealism blinds you from .knowing false reports plus pictures destroys health lives
The boxer huricane
Teacher Ashley Johnson
Etc....All WRONGFULLY CONVICTED
Under the false flag falsehood of safety? 🙄
We Thought YOU'D know better ABL
😮🤨🤔 in my town youd learn real fast what really goes on make you well rounded and insightful
@SoUnDMaN831 Says:
I think it’s a great option for people to have, to give footage to police and fire. Honestly, if you care that much about privacy then don’t get one of these devices in the first place.
@oneenigma4u Says:
I think there was a little more to it than what's been said here. Such as law enforcement could look at videos through the app without asking. Because these videos from a ring doorbell recorded the street a public area.
@iamkesha. Says:
I’m sure if a crime happened in your neighborhood and the police ASK neighbors for help by sharing their videos with them, they will help them out. This will alleviate police going behind people’s back.
@StuckInCali2Long Says:
Sounds like the people that made this decision must live in neighborhoods that are secure and criminals can't just roll through at any time. This is the issue in our country. Elites making decisions about things for us that they have no clue about.
@mikeinmd915 Says:
What's to stop the police from "placing their own ring device" and being considered part of the neighborhood? I'm suggesting one outdoor device on a separate account. Certainly, the logistics could be worked out regarding power and an appropriate mounting location. If you were concerned about rising crime in your neighborhood, would you be supportive?
@williamkilpatrick6821 Says:
This is why you get a camera without a cloud service.
@coda821 Says:
Mr. Logan. The question is whether the police have to ask the citizen, or the company that makes the camera.
@TxHammer757 Says:
Its just a backlash from ring employees getting caught on spying on customers
@Hide_and_Tweak Says:
what about other surveillance systems ? do they all share directly the footage with police ?
@JoyPeace-ej2uv Says:
Cities and counties have a right to put up their own cameras and monitor them. Yeah it saves them money if homeowners do it. But at the same time I am not happy if a company turns over video of my grandkids' daily routine over en masse to anyone. Even police and sheriffs' departments have creeps on them.
@aj-2savage896 Says:
Still nowhere near as bad as Apple with that terrorist's government phone in CA.
@TheJohnBordonaro Says:
ACAB
@TB-ModelRR Says:
But Liberty Safes can give out the master code? Wtf, clowns?
@CalleoPelias Says:
Ring needs to be sued for the years of improper data sharing. Sued into oblivion.
@abrahamhernandez5686 Says:
I think it's funny that the people who have those cameras all over the property and especially in the house are worried about privacy 😂
@robbehr8806 Says:
Amazon is "woke," which means they see criminals as the real victims.
@dps5707 Says:
What the hell, let's not stop criminal.
Guess I won't be ordering from Amazon anymore and will be canceling my subscription. Police should not have to ask or right a search warrant to veiw a video that filmed a crime.
Maybe police should start charging individuals for hindering a police investigation. People are words about privacy, how about the right to be protected from criminals and live in peace.
@0116Lori Says:
It's not about being part of our culture, it's about being part of the Constitution of the United States of America. I will share my video footage if I want to (or not) but they should absolutely not be able to just go and get it.
@NicoleMorgan Says:
Feeding the algorithm monster 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@0Diazzz0 Says:
I disagree. Its your camera not the government camera. At this point I would recommend regular hidden cameras and if you want to share it with the police then by all means take it to them. They dont have to knock on doors because they can still call them on the phone. Your argument is weak.
@kentilleryjr5364 Says:
Should be permission based with people being able to limit access
@realraven2000 Says:
I would NOT put a Ring or any publicly networked camera inside my home. If I would record anything inside at all it would only go to my own local server within my house.
@stripmin41 Says:
Remember Liberty safe giving safe codes to the government. No thanks if they want they can get a warrant. I have no problem if you agree to help.with crime but be warned if they see something in your own hime it could be probable cause.
@brucebraddock Says:
Ring! Ring!
@SPACEMAN_fkYT Says:
Cops have to do actual old school police work if they can't get the video. They can ask and the citizen can say no.
@woodguy76 Says:
You're a bit confused about this ABL. Amazon was giving the police the video when they requested it and people were pissed off that they were doing it. Amazon will no longer give up the video without a warrant.
@adamchapman3358 Says:
The ring camera is cheap for a reason
@robertnunn3015 Says:
We all know Amazon spies on you with all their gadgets !
@mylamberfeeties875 Says:
I am so tired of police expecting aka DEMANDING the people who pay their wages, yes ALREADY PAID COPS, wanting US to do the job they are being paid for. Like seriously? NO!
@josephhruby3225 Says:
At its core , it's a simple issue . Who's tapes are they ? Ring shouldn't have the prerogative or the responsibility to offer the government " sharing services "
@wolfmobile3693 Says:
If it helps solve a serious crimes like catching killers and grapeists, then I have no issues with law enforcement getting the videos. And people with their always on hot mic devices in their homes like Alexa in their house have no right to cry about privacy.
@wirecutter0709 Says:
Nothing new for LE
@getbendt2970 Says:
Hey ABL, it seems you understand the story better than most of the people here commenting. This is about how the police request the video. It seems logical that they should be able to do it through the app which would be faster and help solve crimes in an immediate situation, where someone’s life may be at danger. Making the cops go door-to-door and request. Individual videos from individual people could take hours even days. Going into the app and explaining the situation and asking the consumers. If their video may have captured, something seems logical and reasonable. Most of the people commenting here either didn’t listen to the story, or have a biased opinion about their own liberty, that doesn’t make sense in this circumstance.
@getbendt2970 Says:
This sounds like much to do about nothing. It sounds to me like ring is creating an issue where one doesn’t exist. If the police can access the app and ask someone for the video then I don’t see what the issue is because you could always say no. Maybe there should be an explanation of what they can use and can be used against you if something else is seen on the video? If that’s the case, then yes, the police would need a warrant to demand the video. I think as long as the homeownerhas the opportunity to watch the video before they turn it over and maybe there should be some type of limited range of access. Same time the police having access to all these doorbell videos will keep crime down and help solve existing crime.
@Jeff-z2e Says:
I would like to provide the facts as a former detective who just recently retired with 26 years in Law Enforcement with years of using the Ring Law Enforcement portal.
It is not Ring who gives away footage. It is the owner of the Ring video. Asking is not a violation of the Fourth Amendment. Asking does not require a warrant. Unlawfully searching and taking is without a warrant is a violation of the Fourth Amendment. The key word regarding this is "asking". Police were not searching or taking anything.
What I would do is go to a map on the app. I would go to the area where the crime occurred. I would draw a digital geographical area that would be marked with a circle a small radius of where the crime occurred. I would not be provided with what houses or businesses within that geographical area had cameras. No names or addresses would be provided to me of Ring camera owners.
It is no different than sending officers or detectives to go knock on doors and the owner provides the video. What the app function allows is years ago it would take days or weeks to knock on doors to obtain video. Where most of the time the homeowners were at work or not at home. With the app within a few seconds, I can request videos from hundreds or maybe thousands of citizens with a click of a mouse.
After the area was identified I would provide the case number assigned to the crime. The date/ time it occurred and general information regarding the crime.
I would then send the request through the app and Ring would forward it to all Ring owners within the requested area. Ring owners could ignore the request, decline the request, or accept the request. If the request is ignored or declined, I was not provided with who ignored or declined the request. If the request is accepted the Ring owner, not Ring, provides whatever video they want to me. The provided video then goes into a digital case folder created by me when the request is made. The address where the video came from is provided by the owner as part of their acceptance of the request. It is up to the owner if they provide other information such as their name or contact information.
Where then my focus could turn to evidence collection/ processing, interviews, investigation, and other cases I was working on.
Again, Law Enforcement had no access to any Ring cameras or Ring systems.
Another thing is Ring only keeps videos for a certain amount of time. Which means obtaining the videos is time-sensitive. I can tell I have had many times where a homeowner had told me the video timed out yesterday or a few days ago and is not available now. A video that could have solved my crime.
Here is something to remember. Unlike on TV and movies, detectives could be actively working 5 to 10 or more cases at one time. With up to a hundred sometimes I would have pending for me to read let alone work. With ten to 20 more every day being assigned to me.
So, the Ring app was a way technology replaced the old-fashioned knocking on hundreds of doors. Allowing me to focus on solving cases and providing justice to my victims.
I can tell you just recently retired after 26 years of service. Spying on or violating people's rights was farthest from my mind. It was getting justice for my victims and arresting suspects so that others would not be victimized.
Police daily ask for help on local news. Obtaining no information or video until citizens voluntarily respond. The Ring Law Enforcement portal did the same thing just using a different technology.
@mastercraftsman4213 Says:
If your front door can be seen from the street (public street) you dont have privacy anyway.....
@sisleymichael Says:
Guess what America? The fed gov hates you. If you are surprised, where in the hell have you been? This SHOULD be a wake up call. I suspect most people are in the dark, even after this. Why? You are asleep, and you will eventually be put to sleep by the government. Please, hope you have a nice sleep.
@doreenmoquin5345 Says:
Requests are fine, but a neighbor complying could offend the neighbor across the street since they could be in view of another's camera. This can get very complicated.
@doreenmoquin5345 Says:
Well, then, they need to speed things up. What did they do before Ring cameras?
@6gatornation Says:
people using drones to scope out your property so they can steal your stuff is the most outrageous
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